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So how can this be put back on UK? The NCAA declared him eligible before the season began. This all seems to me like its going to be a bunch of he said she said and end up with no action. If any action were to be taken, I would think it would be against his high school coach for giving him improper benefits... Unless there is more to this story, I can't see why this is a problem for UK....
Thats funny the player that played for ku the year they won the title didnt even finish high school but the ncaa did nothing about that. Its all lets screw uk anyway we can
OK...everyone please sit back and fasten your seat belts. Here we go.
After ONE YEAR of coaching at Kentucky, John Calipari has manged to: 1)Have the Department of Justice look into the KY (Gillespie) players that were dismissed by Cal. 2)Have the NCAA begin an investigation into the academics of Bledsoe. 3)Tamper with several Univ of Memphis active scholarship players upon his exit from Memphis (which I hope the NCAA adds as a new potential infraction to review).
Calipari is a bull in the china closet. And in that China closet are such valuables as Loyalty, Integrity, Honesty, and Respect. Yes those valuables are cherished by most everyone except Cal and his frothy mouthed KY fans who defend him against anything as long as they get great players and they win. A partnership that was meant to be.
And let;s not forget that KY is one of the most penalized teams in College Basketball History.
To Anon above," Its all lets screw uk any way we can". Dear Sir, It is just the opposite. Kentucky will screw anyone they can to get what they want, then stick their heads in the sand and say, "I dont see anything wrong here" Your sand castle is beginnng to crumble. Hey to your credit though, and it is a first as far as I know, that the Dept of Justice, I'll say that again the Dept of Justice is looking into Cal's recruiting practices. I'll bet the NCAA loves having the Feds looking into 'their' closed record books for allowing the crap that goes onto today allowed by the NCAA and their biases.
Cal was cleared in the Rose academic case. Fine, the Univ of Memphis had as much, or as little, to do with that as Cal did. Yet Memphis was penalized. 'Memphis was penalized bewcaus trhey knew Rose's acedemics were suspect and played him anyway." The same goes for Kentucky, but more so, as Cal and Kentucky should have learned from this when they were recruiting Bledsoe...they took a risk.
We know Calipari is your favorite whipping boy, but he's got nothing to do with this Bledsoe matter. Zilch. Do you understand how pathetic you look trying to tie him into it somehow? Wanting it to be true, as badly as you want it to be, doesn't make it true.
First, this has nothing to do with Calipari. Zilch. Did you even read the article?
Second, the DOJ isn't investigating Calipari or the university. They're examining the NCAA and it's scholarship rules to see whether there is an antitrust concern. Again, don't you even read the stories, or do you just look at the headlines and make up your own?
These guys really don't know what they're talking about. Memphis was penalized because it played an ineligible player! Or at least a player the NCAA suspected was ineligible. It couldn't investigate the Rose SAT matter any further without Rose's cooperation. It placed the burden on him to prove his innocence, something Jay Bilas, a practicing attorney, loudly criticized. As everyone agrees, the NCAA screwed Memphis big time. How did the SAT people allow someone else to take the test? Did the imposter show them an ID card that said "McLovin"? (Bilas' line) How was the school suppose to know what was alleged to have happened? Was Calipari supposed to attend every recruit's SAT session to guarantee the right guy was taking it? And how can the NCAA penalize a school for relying on the NCAA's Clearinghouse? It was the NCAA who declared him eligible!
The ignorance of some of these comments is stunning.
To repeat for the nth time, the NCAA exonerated Calipari at UMass and at Memphis. He did nothing wrong. He was never even implicated. And the NCAA went out of its way to clear him.
Comments to the contrary are ignorant.
And the NCAA will exonerate Calipari once more in this Bledsoe matter. Because it has nothing to do with him. Attempts to argue the contrary are almost too weak to respond to.
But here's the stone cold truth. It doesn't matter if Calipari is blameless. Repeat: It doesn't matter if Calipari is blameless. The NCAA will strip UK of at least some wins if it believes (but doesn't have to prove) that Bledsoe's mom compromised his amateur status, and they'll vacate every game he played in if they think he was academically ineligible.
And from this initial report, the NCAA could easy say it looks like Bledsoe's mom received some rental payments. The grade fixing suspicion looks pretty weak, and my guess is will fall away as it did in the Rose case.
Focus, trolls. It's not about Calipari. It's about Bledsoe's eligibility. As it was with Rose, as it is with Maggette.
I believe the poster said that the University of Memephis had as little or as much todo with it as Cal did. It also says Cal was cleared. It won't be Cal's fault on the Bledsoe issue, but it will be pinned, if true, on the the University of Kentucky. As far as I know, Missouri and Kentucky, were the 2 teams singled out by the Department of Justice. I don't see how you can say it isn't about Kentucky.
The scholarship players were acedemically eligible. They recieved no chance to be fully evaluated. They were dismissed because they didnt fit the ddo, which tells me that Cal had no interest in developing them, because he wanted the recruits that some had aleady signed at Memphis, and other he was recruiting. Your head is still in the sand dude.
This is one of the most exciting articles I have read in a long time. In the past I have posted maybe 4 or 5 times as "anon" and have displayed not only my feelings about Cal but what he is truly about. I got hammered by every KY fan on here. You have defended Cal to the end. But everything I have stated in the past is coming true in some form or another and the Arrogance and the Igorance is pouring out of he KY fanbase. Your beloved coach is going to stick it so far up your tails you will never get it out. All Mphs fans are jeleous....correct??? that is what you all have said instead of listening to good reason or at least listen with an open mind. So now I have said what I needed. ACCEPT ........."CHOKE ON IT" YOU BUNCH OF ARROGANT SNOBS THAT THINK YOU ARE BETTER THAN EVERYBODY ELSE.
to all KY fans.....look at it this way. At least you wont have a Championship Game erased from the NCAA record books. The great Wall of Kentucky couldnt pull it off. Once again KY...your cheaters just like you have been in the past. Now you just happen to have a coach who is the best cheater in the business. Have you wondered why you hear all the rumors of Cal going to the NBA? The man always has an exit plan in case he gets caught. Memphis went through tha crap every year until KY came calling.
THANK YOU for taking that peice of crap off of our hands. We got our penalties and now you will get yours. I cant wait to read the rebuttles on my comments. Man this going to extremely fun!!!!!!!
Programs of UK's stature matter to the sport as a whole. These days, the NCAA only makes examples of the colleges that aren't important, such as Memphis.
You seriously have a sad life. Who takes pleasure in someone's pain? Most of UK fans think Memphis got unfairly screwed.
As far as UK fans being arrogant; we don't think we are better than everyone. UCLA, Kansas, UNC, and Duke are our equals. However, we are definitely better than the likes of Memphis. Not hating here, but Memphis sports are really irrelevant, just like UAB, Houston, etc.
My only rebuttal to the Memphis fan is that it wasn't Calipari who got your school in trouble. He had nothing to do with it. Just as he has nothing to do with Bledsoe's senior year grades or his mom's rent.
No, what got your school in trouble, and what may well get my school in trouble, is a misplaced belief that the NCAA Clearinghouse knows what it's doing and means what it says when it clears a kid to play at the college level. If you can't trust the NCAA Clearinghouse, what's the point in having one?
Maybe it's easier for you to blame a person, some known commodity, than a faceless and unfamiliar bureaucracy. But get it through your head that Calipari didn't screw over Memphis. The NCAA did.
Wheatgerm.......... You need to get it through your thick head that Calipari has everything to do with it!! He is an absolute master at manipulating things that are in "grey" areas. Any college coach knows absolutely everything about the atheletes they recruit. You can bet you last dime on that. They make decisions based on whether they think they can get away with it or not. Is the kid good enough to take a risk on? It is also noteable that a new area he is working in for recruits that does not hemn them into the scholl is the finacial grants given to you last 2 recruits and not a letter of intent. Calapari knows his days are limited. It was also no secret to anybody about Bledsoe's academics. Read some of the articles about him and judge for yourself. Read Goodman for an excellent example. Calapari takes high risk because he is smart enough to stay out of the mainstream of the B.S. If you think he is so innocent then why are the following 2 things happening to KY right now? 1) The NCAA Bledsoe investigation 2) "The Justice Department" investigation involving scholarships and forcing students to leave the program for new students that are risky and choose to cheat their way into school.
If Kentucky is so high and mighty and does everything respectable then how can you treat existing scholarship student atheletes that way? You need to learn to quit talking out of both sides of your mouth. Your one sided defensiveness is repulsive.
I think the anon poster was trying to say that John Calipari dismissed 6 scholarship players in good academic standing, then, because Bledsoe was such an outstanding player, heavily recruited him, even though his academics were suspect, simply because he was better than any one of the 6 dismissed. Talent completely ruled over academic qualifications. Goodman on Fox tweeted today that every coach he had spoken to regarding Bledsoes academics, did not believe it was possible that Bledsoe woould qualify for any college. Calipari is smart enough to distance himself from these potential risks, even though he knows what is happening all along.
By the way, of all the posters on this site, Wheatgerm is the only, and I do mean ONLY person who posts who does his/her best to see things clearly and objectively. I disagree with Wheatgerm on some occasions, but that person really endeavors to get it right and still be a loyal fan. That is the example we all should follow. Yes I am a die hard Memphis fan, and believe it or not, we have nothing against Kentucky, but we are relentless and unforgiving with our comments because of the shape Cal tried to leave our leave our program in. Thank goodness for the energy and character of Josh Pastner.
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So how can this be put back on UK? The NCAA declared him eligible before the season began. This all seems to me like its going to be a bunch of he said she said and end up with no action. If any action were to be taken, I would think it would be against his high school coach for giving him improper benefits... Unless there is more to this story, I can't see why this is a problem for UK....
Because he can then be deemed ineligible. And since he played for Kentcuky all the wins wiped away ala Memphis. Sorry to say, it an happen.
Thats funny the player that played for ku the year they won the title didnt even finish high school but the ncaa did nothing about that. Its all lets screw uk anyway we can
OK...everyone please sit back and fasten your seat belts. Here we go.
After ONE YEAR of coaching at Kentucky, John Calipari has manged to:
1)Have the Department of Justice look into the KY (Gillespie) players that were dismissed by Cal.
2)Have the NCAA begin an investigation into the academics of Bledsoe.
3)Tamper with several Univ of Memphis active scholarship players upon his exit from Memphis (which I hope the NCAA adds as a new potential infraction to review).
Calipari is a bull in the china closet. And in that China closet are such valuables as Loyalty, Integrity, Honesty, and Respect.
Yes those valuables are cherished by most everyone except Cal and his frothy mouthed KY fans who defend him against anything as long as they get great players and they win.
A partnership that was meant to be.
And let;s not forget that KY is one of the most penalized teams in College Basketball History.
To Anon above," Its all lets screw uk any way we can".
Dear Sir, It is just the opposite.
Kentucky will screw anyone they can to get what they want, then stick their heads in the sand and say, "I dont see anything wrong here"
Your sand castle is beginnng to crumble.
Hey to your credit though, and it is a first as far as I know, that the Dept of Justice, I'll say that again the Dept of Justice is looking into Cal's recruiting practices. I'll bet the NCAA loves having the Feds looking into 'their' closed record books for allowing the crap that goes onto today allowed by the NCAA and their biases.
Cal was cleared in the Rose academic case. Fine, the Univ of Memphis had as much, or as little, to do with that as Cal did. Yet Memphis was penalized.
'Memphis was penalized bewcaus trhey knew Rose's acedemics were suspect and played him anyway."
The same goes for Kentucky, but more so, as Cal and Kentucky should have learned from this when they were recruiting Bledsoe...they took a risk.
...and where there is smoke, there is fire.
We know Calipari is your favorite whipping boy, but he's got nothing to do with this Bledsoe matter. Zilch. Do you understand how pathetic you look trying to tie him into it somehow? Wanting it to be true, as badly as you want it to be, doesn't make it true.
First, this has nothing to do with Calipari. Zilch. Did you even read the article?
Second, the DOJ isn't investigating Calipari or the university. They're examining the NCAA and it's scholarship rules to see whether there is an antitrust concern. Again, don't you even read the stories, or do you just look at the headlines and make up your own?
These guys really don't know what they're talking about. Memphis was penalized because it played an ineligible player! Or at least a player the NCAA suspected was ineligible. It couldn't investigate the Rose SAT matter any further without Rose's cooperation. It placed the burden on him to prove his innocence, something Jay Bilas, a practicing attorney, loudly criticized. As everyone agrees, the NCAA screwed Memphis big time. How did the SAT people allow someone else to take the test? Did the imposter show them an ID card that said "McLovin"? (Bilas' line) How was the school suppose to know what was alleged to have happened? Was Calipari supposed to attend every recruit's SAT session to guarantee the right guy was taking it? And how can the NCAA penalize a school for relying on the NCAA's Clearinghouse? It was the NCAA who declared him eligible!
The ignorance of some of these comments is stunning.
To repeat for the nth time, the NCAA exonerated Calipari at UMass and at Memphis. He did nothing wrong. He was never even implicated. And the NCAA went out of its way to clear him.
Comments to the contrary are ignorant.
And the NCAA will exonerate Calipari once more in this Bledsoe matter. Because it has nothing to do with him. Attempts to argue the contrary are almost too weak to respond to.
But here's the stone cold truth. It doesn't matter if Calipari is blameless. Repeat: It doesn't matter if Calipari is blameless. The NCAA will strip UK of at least some wins if it believes (but doesn't have to prove) that Bledsoe's mom compromised his amateur status, and they'll vacate every game he played in if they think he was academically ineligible.
And from this initial report, the NCAA could easy say it looks like Bledsoe's mom received some rental payments. The grade fixing suspicion looks pretty weak, and my guess is will fall away as it did in the Rose case.
Focus, trolls. It's not about Calipari. It's about Bledsoe's eligibility. As it was with Rose, as it is with Maggette.
I believe the poster said that the University of Memephis had as little or as much todo with it as Cal did. It also says Cal was cleared. It won't be Cal's fault on the Bledsoe issue, but it will be pinned, if true, on the the University of Kentucky.
As far as I know, Missouri and Kentucky, were the 2 teams singled out by the Department of Justice.
I don't see how you can say it isn't about Kentucky.
The scholarship players were acedemically eligible. They recieved no chance to be fully evaluated. They were dismissed because they didnt fit the ddo, which tells me that Cal had no interest in developing them, because he wanted the recruits that some had aleady signed at Memphis, and other he was recruiting.
Your head is still in the sand dude.
I went to this site and my pc got a anti virus trojan installed to it without my permission. Pain in the ass so be careful.
This is one of the most exciting articles I have read in a long time. In the past I have posted maybe 4 or 5 times as "anon" and have displayed not only my feelings about Cal but what he is truly about. I got hammered by every KY fan on here. You have defended Cal to the end. But everything I have stated in the past is coming true in some form or another and the Arrogance and the Igorance is pouring out of he KY fanbase. Your beloved coach is going to stick it so far up your tails you will never get it out. All Mphs fans are jeleous....correct??? that is what you all have said instead of listening to good reason or at least listen with an open mind.
So now I have said what I needed.
ACCEPT
........."CHOKE ON IT" YOU BUNCH OF ARROGANT SNOBS THAT THINK YOU ARE BETTER THAN EVERYBODY ELSE.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
to all KY fans.....look at it this way. At least you wont have a Championship Game erased from the NCAA record books. The great Wall of Kentucky couldnt pull it off. Once again KY...your cheaters just like you have been in the past. Now you just happen to have a coach who is the best cheater in the business.
Have you wondered why you hear all the rumors of Cal going to the NBA? The man always has an exit plan in case he gets caught. Memphis went through tha crap every year until KY came calling.
THANK YOU for taking that peice of crap off of our hands. We got our penalties and now you will get yours.
I cant wait to read the rebuttles on my comments.
Man this going to extremely fun!!!!!!!
Somebody needs to investigate the NCAA....I think THEY are the problem.
Programs of UK's stature matter to the sport as a whole. These days, the NCAA only makes examples of the colleges that aren't important, such as Memphis.
Dear Memphis fan,
You seriously have a sad life. Who takes pleasure in someone's pain? Most of UK fans think Memphis got unfairly screwed.
As far as UK fans being arrogant; we don't think we are better than everyone. UCLA, Kansas, UNC, and Duke are our equals. However, we are definitely better than the likes of Memphis. Not hating here, but Memphis sports are really irrelevant, just like UAB, Houston, etc.
My only rebuttal to the Memphis fan is that it wasn't Calipari who got your school in trouble. He had nothing to do with it. Just as he has nothing to do with Bledsoe's senior year grades or his mom's rent.
No, what got your school in trouble, and what may well get my school in trouble, is a misplaced belief that the NCAA Clearinghouse knows what it's doing and means what it says when it clears a kid to play at the college level. If you can't trust the NCAA Clearinghouse, what's the point in having one?
Maybe it's easier for you to blame a person, some known commodity, than a faceless and unfamiliar bureaucracy. But get it through your head that Calipari didn't screw over Memphis. The NCAA did.
Wheatgerm..........
You need to get it through your thick head that Calipari has everything to do with it!! He is an absolute master at manipulating things that are in "grey" areas. Any college coach knows absolutely everything about the atheletes they recruit. You can bet you last dime on that. They make decisions based on whether they think they can get away with it or not. Is the kid good enough to take a risk on? It is also noteable that a new area he is working in for recruits that does not hemn them into the scholl is the finacial grants given to you last 2 recruits and not a letter of intent. Calapari knows his days are limited. It was also no secret to anybody about Bledsoe's academics. Read some of the articles about him and judge for yourself. Read Goodman for an excellent example. Calapari takes high risk because he is smart enough to stay out of the mainstream of the B.S.
If you think he is so innocent then why are the following 2 things happening to KY right now?
1) The NCAA Bledsoe investigation
2) "The Justice Department" investigation involving scholarships and forcing students to leave the program for new students that are risky and choose to cheat their way into school.
If Kentucky is so high and mighty and does everything respectable then how can you treat existing scholarship student atheletes that way?
You need to learn to quit talking out of both sides of your mouth. Your one sided defensiveness is repulsive.
The only "repulsive" thing on this blog for the last few months has been your almost manic obsession with Calipari.
I think the anon poster was trying to say that John Calipari dismissed 6 scholarship players in good academic standing, then, because Bledsoe was such an outstanding player, heavily recruited him, even though his academics were suspect, simply because he was better than any one of the 6 dismissed. Talent completely ruled over academic qualifications. Goodman on Fox tweeted today that every coach he had spoken to regarding Bledsoes academics, did not believe it was possible that Bledsoe woould qualify for any college.
Calipari is smart enough to distance himself from these potential risks, even though he knows what is happening all along.
By the way, of all the posters on this site, Wheatgerm is the only, and I do mean ONLY person who posts who does his/her best to see things clearly and objectively.
I disagree with Wheatgerm on some occasions, but that person really endeavors to get it right and still be a loyal fan. That is the example we all should follow. Yes I am a die hard Memphis fan, and believe it or not, we have nothing against Kentucky, but we are relentless and unforgiving with our comments because of the shape Cal tried to leave our leave our program in. Thank goodness for the energy and character of Josh Pastner.
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