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There are no other options than to play professional in Turkey(no high schools more like prep schools). The Kanter's tried everything to get their son eligible. They even turned down millions to play in the states. Common sense says Free Enes!
It is going to be difficult for most Kentucky fans - not getting things their own way. But that is the way it is going to be and they will get used to it after the screaming, crying, cursing and pouting subside. OK now call me Red Bird fan. What I am is an old timer, a long time Kentucky basketball fan, and one of the few that can see clearly how absurd the rank and file fan can be. You people rationalize everything on earth to fit your own selfish needs. The kid or his father took an estimated $68,000 in monthly payments and a one time bonus payment - by any reasonable standard he is a professional. Arguably the Cam Newton decision may not have been proper, but two wrongs do not make a right - except in Kentucky when it is beneficial.
So the Kanter's should of sent Enes to the states before he turned 15, because they knew he was going to be a stud...right? So what do you say to them turning down millions? What did they do wrong? They have offered to pay the money back. They have done EVERYTHING right, but move him here earlier. It is common sense, he wants to be play college basketball and did everything he thought he could, so let him play. He is not taking under the table money, he was doing what your supposed to do in Turkey to play ball. So you are telling me a 15 year old is a professional. Hey old timer get off your meds and wake up. Free Enes!
Free Enes is the Only just and fair solution to a young man's desire to play ball in these United States of America. Even tho I am not a Kansas fan, I am glad the misguided NCAA allowed Josh Selby to repay his father's mistake and be able to now play for the Jayhawks.
I don't like the word "compensation" because it can be read as salary or pay for play. That's how the 1st Anon. reads it. It's important to choose one's words wisely in this case.
Compensation is a much broader word, one that can include reimbursement of expenses. If all Ulker did was overcompensate the Kanters for expenses, we can have a really good debate whether Enes should be considered a professional.
But if he was being compensated for his efforts on the court, case closed.
So you see how everything can turn on a single word? The 3d Anon. says Enes is a "professional." Ouch. If that's true, regardless of whether he had a choice, case closed.
The 5th Anon. seems to basing his opinion on facts that are not established. Nothing he says about $68,000 a month (!) and a signing bonus found their way into the NCAA's decision. And wouldn't you think something like that would deserve a mention? No, the only finding the NCAA made was that Enes received $33,033 more than actual and necessary expenses in 2008-09. That's it. And by rule, he "shall not be eligible."
The 7th Anon. (c'mon guys, make up a name to post with) points to Selby. I prefer to point to Dee Bost at Mississippi State. Dee lost his amateur status. That's right, if you don't withdraw your name from the NBA draft, the NCAA no longer considers you an amateur. Yet, Dee will be playing college ball again very soon. How did that happen? How do you regain your amateur status once you've lost it by rule? Dee's case shows how circumstances can overcome a strict reading of a rule. And that should give UK fans some hope.
btw, I'm willing to wager that Calipari never used the word "compensation." That's just how Tipton likes to describe it. The NCAA never used that word in it's Nov. 11 decision. But Jerry doesn't feel constricted by such things.
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"the compensation he received for playing for a Turkish professional team"
That says it all.
his daddy, just like Mr. Newton. A 15 year old boy is not handling the money. he is handling the roundball. Free Enes is Cam is free.
There are no other options than to play professional in Turkey(no high schools more like prep schools). The Kanter's tried everything to get their son eligible. They even turned down millions to play in the states. Common sense says Free Enes!
First comment is from a UL fan. We get it, you are worried. Go back to your trailer park.
It is going to be difficult for most Kentucky fans - not getting things their own way. But that is the way it is going to be and they will get used to it after the screaming, crying, cursing and pouting subside. OK now call me Red Bird fan. What I am is an old timer, a long time Kentucky basketball fan, and one of the few that can see clearly how absurd the rank and file fan can be. You people rationalize everything on earth to fit your own selfish needs. The kid or his father took an estimated $68,000 in monthly payments and a one time bonus payment - by any reasonable standard he is a professional. Arguably the Cam Newton decision may not have been proper, but two wrongs do not make a right - except in Kentucky when it is beneficial.
So the Kanter's should of sent Enes to the states before he turned 15, because they knew he was going to be a stud...right? So what do you say to them turning down millions? What did they do wrong? They have offered to pay the money back. They have done EVERYTHING right, but move him here earlier. It is common sense, he wants to be play college basketball and did everything he thought he could, so let him play. He is not taking under the table money, he was doing what your supposed to do in Turkey to play ball. So you are telling me a 15 year old is a professional. Hey old timer get off your meds and wake up. Free Enes!
Free Enes is the Only just and fair solution to a young man's desire to play ball in these United States of America. Even tho I am not a Kansas fan, I am glad the misguided NCAA allowed Josh Selby to repay his father's mistake and be able to now play for the Jayhawks.
I don't like the word "compensation" because it can be read as salary or pay for play. That's how the 1st Anon. reads it. It's important to choose one's words wisely in this case.
Compensation is a much broader word, one that can include reimbursement of expenses. If all Ulker did was overcompensate the Kanters for expenses, we can have a really good debate whether Enes should be considered a professional.
But if he was being compensated for his efforts on the court, case closed.
So you see how everything can turn on a single word? The 3d Anon. says Enes is a "professional." Ouch. If that's true, regardless of whether he had a choice, case closed.
The 5th Anon. seems to basing his opinion on facts that are not established. Nothing he says about $68,000 a month (!) and a signing bonus found their way into the NCAA's decision. And wouldn't you think something like that would deserve a mention? No, the only finding the NCAA made was that Enes received $33,033 more than actual and necessary expenses in 2008-09. That's it. And by rule, he "shall not be eligible."
The 7th Anon. (c'mon guys, make up a name to post with) points to Selby. I prefer to point to Dee Bost at Mississippi State. Dee lost his amateur status. That's right, if you don't withdraw your name from the NBA draft, the NCAA no longer considers you an amateur. Yet, Dee will be playing college ball again very soon. How did that happen? How do you regain your amateur status once you've lost it by rule? Dee's case shows how circumstances can overcome a strict reading of a rule. And that should give UK fans some hope.
btw, I'm willing to wager that Calipari never used the word "compensation." That's just how Tipton likes to describe it. The NCAA never used that word in it's Nov. 11 decision. But Jerry doesn't feel constricted by such things.
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